Scooter Braun talks about the ‘incident’ with Taylor Swift and his current relationship with Justin Bieber: podcast revelations
Scooter Braun He is offering a new perspective about his career after becoming one of the most controversial names in the music industry in recent years.
Braun, 43, appeared as a guest in the podcast “The Diary of A CEO” and spoke frankly about discovering (and then separating from) Justin Bieberand of course, on the subject of Taylor Swift.
As for his long dispute with Swift, 35, who was mentioned as “all this incident with Taylor Swift” in the episode of Monday, June 9, it seems that Braun has a sense of humor.
“What happened?” Braun replied to presenter Steven Bartlett with a smile. (Braun and Swift had a public confrontation in 2019 after he bought Big Machine Records from Scott Borchettawhich included his master recordings. Swift bought its song catalog again earlier this year).
“I thought I was going to work with all Big Machine artists. I thought it was going to be something exciting. I knew that Taylor – she and I had only seen each other three times, I believe, in my life, three or four times – one of the time, it was years before, it was a really great encounter,” he said. “Between that time since I saw it for the last time, I began to drive Kanye West. Hold Justin Bieber. He knew that she didn’t get along with them. I had the feeling, this is where my arrogance entered. He had the feeling that he probably didn’t like him because I was driving them. But I thought that once this was announced, I would talk to me, I would see who I am and work together. ”
For those familiar with history, this was not what happened. Keep moving to know the greatest revelations of the podcast:
Taylor Swift’s matter
Braun said he asked Borchetta for Swift’s phone number after agreement with Big Machine. While calling artists from the label, Swift launched its open letter in Tumblr with respect to the sale of Big Machine.
“I simply struck,” Braun said. “I don’t need to go back to that, but what I can tell you is that everything in life is a gift. To have that experience allowed me to have empathy for the people I worked with already who always told them, ‘Yes, I understand.’
Braun revealed the “greatest gift” he obtained from this public situation.
“All the praise I received until that moment was not deserved. All the hatred I received after that moment was not deserved, because none of those people knew me,” he said. “The gift of pain was consciousness.”
Braun made it clear that “he doesn’t keep any hatred” about the situation.
“Everyone continues,” he said. “I choose to see it as a gift. I choose to see it as the ability to have a perspective that very few people in the world have to know what that is. To feel it globally.”
It crosses its divorce
While Braun dealt with the public consequences of his dispute with Swift, the music tycoon was also in the middle of a separation from his ex -wife Yael Cohenwith whom he shares three children. (His separation was announced in 2021, and divorce was completed the following year).
“I am grateful for a couple of things. One, my children were really young when it happened, so they didn’t feel it so much,” said Braun about navigating the scandal with swift. “It was very difficult at that time. It was hard for marriage. It was hard for our family.”
In another part of the podcast episode, Braun spoken frankly about his divorce.
“In October 2020, my marriage was falling apart. Everyone thought I was doing it,” Braun recalled. “I had a suicidal thought for 20 minutes in which I thought, ‘If my marriage is going to crumble, I will not be with my children all the time. I cannot control this. I will not be this perfect image that I have presented to the world. If I cannot be this perfect image, I do not want to be here.’ He went to a very dark place, and after 20 minutes I said, ‘What the hell was that?’ That is not me, I would never leave my children. ”
What happened to Yael
That Braun was not “happy” who was affected his marriage.
“I think I was happy because everyone told me that I was doing great and I thought that was enough,” he said. “I feel that I was asleep at the wheel. I feel that I did not know me at that time and, but I had so much success at such a young age. Everyone told me that I was doing great. So I chose to believe them. It was not until the base broke and there was nothing under it that I said, oh m ****, I’m really not happy.”
As for his relationship with Cohen now, Braun said that “they were made to be incredible co -adres” of their three children.
“We were made to enter the life of the other, to help each other to be better in different ways,” he said. “Through the pain of our relationship ending, we were gathered to form three incredible souls. Now, whoever has me has a Grand Prix.”
His long relationship with Justin Bieber – and how he is now
Braun said he had a “clear vision” of Bieber’s success after watching the singer’s covers on YouTube. “No one believed me,” Braun recalled, noting that Bieber’s “tone” and “charisma” allowed the story to develop.
“They risked him too. They believed in a 25 -year -old boy,” Braun said about Bieber and his family. “We were able to achieve amazing things and I am very proud of what we achieved and always wishing him the best.”
Braun admitted that his relationship with Bieber “is not the same as it was” when they worked together. (Braun and Bieber separated professionally in 2023).
“I think a point comes where, I understand, you probably want to move on and show that you can do it. We work together for so long and we had such an extreme success,” Braun explained. “I think you get to a point as a man where you want to show the world that you can do it on your own. I respect that completely. I think at this point is what you are doing.”
Justin Bieber separation
Us Weekly He confirmed that Bieber officially let Braun go as his manager in August 2023.
“At that time a couple of years had passed where I knew I wanted to do something else, and I wanted to find out who it was,” he said. “I wanted to experiment with, you know, a different race and we were both communicating enough with each other. Scripture was on the wall.”
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